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Before you sign for a car.

A car loan is almost always sold by the month — a number small enough to feel fine. This sheet is for talking it through together before the ink dries, or for helping after it has. Run the math first; have the conversation second.

  • Teen
  • Parent
  • First job
Name
Date
Audience
For talking a car loan through together
Time
About 20 minutes
Materials
The loan terms (price, payment, months) · a calculator
Objective

Find a car loan's true cost, run the 20/3/8 check, and talk it through together before — or just after — signing.

Use this when

Someone is about to sign — or already signed — for a car and you want to think it through together.

1 · Run the numbers

The salesperson talks in months. Fill these in to see the total over the life of the loan — and the interest hiding inside the monthly.

Sticker price of the car
$
Down paymentaim for 20% so you aren't underwater the day you drive off
$
APR — the interest ratethe higher it is, the bigger the cost-of-borrowing line below
%
Monthly payment
$
× Number of months
= Total of the payments
$
+ Down payment (from above)
$
= Total you'll pay for the car
$
− Sticker price
$
= Total interest (cost of borrowing)what the loan costs on top of the car — it buys nothing
$

2 · Two more numbers that decide it

The sticker isn't the cost of the car. These two often change the answer.

Monthly insurance estimateget a real quote before you buy — a sporty model or a young driver can double it
$/mo
Your walk-away numberthe all-in price above which the answer is no — decide it before you go in
$

3 · The 20/3/8 check

The Money Guy Show's 20/3/8 rule is the cleanest pre-buy check there is. Tick each box that passes. When all three pass, a car stays out of the way of everything else.

  • Put at least 20% down.

    A real down payment keeps you from owing more than the car is worth the day you drive it off the lot.

  • Finance for no more than 3 years.

    A 72-month loan makes the monthly look small by stretching the interest out for years. Three years is the ceiling.

  • Keep the payment at or below 8% of gross monthly income.

    That's pay before taxes. Above 8%, the car is quietly eating money the rest of the plan needs.

If a box won't tick, the rule isn't a moral judgment — it's a flag that this car is more than the budget can carry.

4 · If the ink's already dry: three doors still open

A signed loan is a sunk cost — the past isn't up for debate. But three concrete moves change where it goes from here, and at least one is almost always worth doing.

  1. Refinance. A credit union can often beat a dealer's rate after a few on-time payments. The lowest-friction move, and usually available.
  2. Pay extra against the balance. Early payments are mostly interest, so anything extra against the principal early shrinks the total a lot.
  3. Sell. If the payment is genuinely stretching, a private sale at full market beats waiting for the loan to bury you — even if you write a check for the gap.

5 · Talk it through

  • What did the "total interest" number from box 1 turn out to be? Was it bigger than expected?
  • Which of the three 20/3/8 checks passed — and which didn't?
  • If a door above fits, who makes the call to the credit union, and by when?
  • What would "a car that fits the budget" look like next time?

6 · What to say

Math doesn't change minds — relationships do. When the moment is right, these three sentences open the door without knocking it down.

How are you feeling about that monthly? I've heard some people refinance through a credit union after a few months — sometimes the rate drops a lot.

If you ever want a hand running the numbers — what the loan actually costs at a high rate versus a low one — I'm happy to. No pressure.

Whatever you decide, I'm in your corner.

7 · What not to do

  • Lecture, calculate at them, or hand over a spreadsheet.
  • Say "you should have" — if it's signed, that ship sailed.
  • Bring it up the first time you see the car.
  • Compare it unfavorably to your own car.

Based on the friend-with-a-car-loan lesson.

michaelwestfinancials.com · © 2026 Michael West Financials · Education, not financial advice · Last reviewed June 2026

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