Everyday Money Habits
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Resource pack · 3 sheets

Parent Conversation Pack.

Three discussion-first guides for the talks that come up — a car loan, a first job offer, and first gig work — each with what to say and what not to.

For a parent talking money moments through with a teen

  1. Before you sign for a carConversation guide · Car loans
  2. Reading a first job offerConversation guide · First job
  3. Starting gig or 1099 workConversation guide · Gig work

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Everyday Money Habits · Conversation guide

Before you sign for a car.

A car loan is almost always sold by the month — a number small enough to feel fine. This sheet is for talking it through together before the ink dries, or for helping after it has. Run the math first; have the conversation second.

  • Teen
  • Parent
  • First job
Name
Date
Audience
For talking a car loan through together
Time
About 20 minutes
Materials
The loan terms (price, payment, months) · a calculator
Objective

Find a car loan's true cost, run the 20/3/8 check, and talk it through together before — or just after — signing.

Use this when

Someone is about to sign — or already signed — for a car and you want to think it through together.

1 · Run the numbers

The salesperson talks in months. Fill these in to see the total over the life of the loan — and the interest hiding inside the monthly.

Sticker price of the car
$
Down paymentaim for 20% so you aren't underwater the day you drive off
$
APR — the interest ratethe higher it is, the bigger the cost-of-borrowing line below
%
Monthly payment
$
× Number of months
= Total of the payments
$
+ Down payment (from above)
$
= Total you'll pay for the car
$
− Sticker price
$
= Total interest (cost of borrowing)what the loan costs on top of the car — it buys nothing
$

2 · Two more numbers that decide it

The sticker isn't the cost of the car. These two often change the answer.

Monthly insurance estimateget a real quote before you buy — a sporty model or a young driver can double it
$/mo
Your walk-away numberthe all-in price above which the answer is no — decide it before you go in
$

3 · The 20/3/8 check

The Money Guy Show's 20/3/8 rule is the cleanest pre-buy check there is. Tick each box that passes. When all three pass, a car stays out of the way of everything else.

  • Put at least 20% down.

    A real down payment keeps you from owing more than the car is worth the day you drive it off the lot.

  • Finance for no more than 3 years.

    A 72-month loan makes the monthly look small by stretching the interest out for years. Three years is the ceiling.

  • Keep the payment at or below 8% of gross monthly income.

    That's pay before taxes. Above 8%, the car is quietly eating money the rest of the plan needs.

If a box won't tick, the rule isn't a moral judgment — it's a flag that this car is more than the budget can carry.

4 · If the ink's already dry: three doors still open

A signed loan is a sunk cost — the past isn't up for debate. But three concrete moves change where it goes from here, and at least one is almost always worth doing.

  1. Refinance. A credit union can often beat a dealer's rate after a few on-time payments. The lowest-friction move, and usually available.
  2. Pay extra against the balance. Early payments are mostly interest, so anything extra against the principal early shrinks the total a lot.
  3. Sell. If the payment is genuinely stretching, a private sale at full market beats waiting for the loan to bury you — even if you write a check for the gap.

5 · Talk it through

  • What did the "total interest" number from box 1 turn out to be? Was it bigger than expected?
  • Which of the three 20/3/8 checks passed — and which didn't?
  • If a door above fits, who makes the call to the credit union, and by when?
  • What would "a car that fits the budget" look like next time?

6 · What to say

Math doesn't change minds — relationships do. When the moment is right, these three sentences open the door without knocking it down.

How are you feeling about that monthly? I've heard some people refinance through a credit union after a few months — sometimes the rate drops a lot.

If you ever want a hand running the numbers — what the loan actually costs at a high rate versus a low one — I'm happy to. No pressure.

Whatever you decide, I'm in your corner.

7 · What not to do

  • Lecture, calculate at them, or hand over a spreadsheet.
  • Say "you should have" — if it's signed, that ship sailed.
  • Bring it up the first time you see the car.
  • Compare it unfavorably to your own car.

Based on the friend-with-a-car-loan lesson.

michaelwestfinancials.com · © 2026 Michael West Financials · Education, not financial advice · Last reviewed June 2026

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Everyday Money Habits · Conversation guide

Reading a first job offer.

The first thing anyone reads is the hourly number, and that's fair — it's the part you can spend this week. But the wage is only half the offer. The other half is quieter: health coverage, a retirement match, paid days off. Across the country, benefits add up to roughly a third again on top of the wage. This sheet is for reading the whole offer together.

  • Teen
  • First job
  • Parent
Name
Date
Audience
For weighing a first job offer together
Time
About 20 minutes
Materials
The written offer or job posting · a pen
Objective

Look past the wage to score the whole offer — convert it to a yearly number, value the benefits, and ask the right questions before saying yes.

Use this when

A first real job offer is on the table and the wage is the only number anyone has looked at.

1 · Turn the wage into a year

An hourly number is hard to compare. Turn it into a yearly wage first — that's the figure the benefits get added to.

Hourly wage
$/hr
Hours per week
hrs
= Yearly wagehourly × hours per week × 52 weeks
$

2 · Score the benefits

Tick what the job actually includes. Where you can, jot what each is worth — roughly what you'd pay for it yourself. Two offers at the same wage can be very different jobs.

  • Health insurance

    the employer pays most of the premium — money you'd otherwise spend yourself

    Worth roughly$/ yr
  • Retirement match

    extra pay added to a 401(k) when you contribute — only if you put in enough to capture it

    Worth roughly$/ yr
  • Paid time off

    days you don't work but still get paid for

    Worth roughly$/ yr
  • Sick leave

    paid days when you're ill, separate from vacation

    Worth roughly$/ yr
  • Full-time hours (35+/week)

    the line most benefits live above — below it, employers rarely offer them

    Worth roughly$/ yr

3 · What it's really worth

Add the wage and the benefits together. This — not the hourly rate — is what you're really being offered.

Yearly wage (from box 1)
$
+ Benefits totaladd up the "worth roughly" lines from box 2
$
= What the offer is really worth
$

4 · Talk it through

  • Once you add the benefits to the wage, what's the offer really worth?
  • Are you already covered for health some other way — a parent's plan until 26, say? If so, weigh the match and the paid time off more heavily.
  • If it's part-time, is there a path to the full-time role that carries the rest?
  • In a tight market, is holding out for a better offer worth turning this one down?

5 · Three questions before you sign

You can ask all three in a two-minute call or email. The answers turn the unknowns on your scorecard into real numbers.

How many hours a week is this, and is there a path to full-time and benefits down the road?

Do you offer a retirement match, and how soon would I be eligible to start getting it?

If there's health coverage, when does it start and how much comes out of my paycheck for it?

6 · The one move no employer controls

Whatever you decide about this offer, one account in the picture has nothing to do with the company: a Roth IRA is yours. You open it, you fund it, and it follows you from job to job — match or no match. All it asks for is earned income, and a first job just gave you some; at a starter wage you're well under the income limits that would ever phase it out.

Open one, set one small automatic contribution, and start the clock no employer can start for you.

Based on the first-job-offer lesson.

michaelwestfinancials.com · © 2026 Michael West Financials · Education, not financial advice · Last reviewed June 2026

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Everyday Money Habits · Conversation guide

Starting gig or 1099 work.

A gig pays you directly — no HR, no benefits portal, nothing withheld. That freedom is real, and it quietly hands you four jobs an employer would normally do for you. This sheet is for picking them up on purpose, together, before they pick you.

  • Teen
  • First job
  • Parent
Name
Date
Audience
For setting up a first gig job together
Time
About 25 minutes
Materials
A rough monthly income estimate · a pen
Objective

Set up a first gig or 1099 job right — taxes, a cash buffer, health coverage, and retirement, now that no employer handles them for you.

Use this when

A teen or young adult is starting gig, freelance, or cash work and no one is withholding taxes for them.

1 · Which kind of gig?

"Gig work" hides the question that decides everything else: who the tax form says you are. Tick the one that fits — when in doubt, ask the payer which form you'll get.

  • 1099 contractor

    ride-share, delivery, freelancing — nothing withheld; taxes and retirement are yours to set up

  • W-2 agency employee

    catering, banquet, staffing — taxes withheld, but benefits usually still don't come with it

  • Paid in cash

    babysitting, odd jobs — still taxable; keep a log, because only documented earnings can fund a Roth

The rest of this sheet assumes the 1099 or cash case — that's where the surprises live.

2 · Four jobs an employer would do — now yours

Check each one off as you set it up. They didn't vanish with the employer; they became yours to assemble.

  • Buy your own health coverage

    use the ACA marketplace (healthcare.gov or your state's exchange) — subsidies scale to income, and a lean gig year often means a cheap plan. Don't go uninsured to save the premium.

  • Set aside your own taxes

    nobody withholds. Park about a third of every payment the day it lands, and pay the IRS in four quarterly estimates — skip them and penalties stack up.

  • Build a bigger cash buffer

    no paid time off means a sick week is a week of lost pay. Aim closer to six months than three.

  • Open your own retirement account

    no match to capture, but no vesting clock either — a Roth IRA is yours the day you open it.

  • Open a separate savings account just for taxes.

    A second account the set-aside can't be spent from by mistake — the single highest-leverage thing you can do this month.

Our tax set-aside (about ⅓) goes to this account
Cash-buffer target$

3 · Quarterly taxes & records

Self-employed taxes aren't paid once a year — the IRS expects four estimatedpayments. Tick each off when it's sent. (Dates shift a day or two for weekends.)

  • Q1 · due around April 15earnings from January–March
  • Q2 · due around June 15April–May
  • Q3 · due around September 15June–August
  • Q4 · due around January 15September–December
  • Keep a mileage & expense log.

    Miles driven, supplies, fees, phone — every documented business cost lowers what you owe. A note in your phone the day it happens is enough.

4 · Talk it through

  • Which form will this gig actually pay on — 1099, W-2, or cash?
  • Where will the tax set-aside live, so it's not spent by mistake?
  • What's a realistic per-month buffer goal, given the income swings?
  • Does a higher gig rate still win once taxes, health, and unpaid days come out of it?

5 · One move this week

Four jobs is a lot to pick up at once — health, retirement, and the buffer can come over the coming weeks. One move can't wait: the taxes nobody is withholding. Every payment you spend in full is a tax bill you're quietly borrowing against.

Open a separate savings account for taxes this week, and the day your next payment lands, move about a third of it straight in — before it can turn into spending money.

Based on the gig-work lesson.

michaelwestfinancials.com · © 2026 Michael West Financials · Education, not financial advice · Last reviewed June 2026

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